Despite showing some early promise, the cartridge never really caught on, even though it was later chambered by Winchester in their new bolt-action Model 43 rifle and by Sako in their L-46 rifle. I misread these as three. I just inspected my empty cases..the brass all look finebut on a unfired round the primer feels kinda sunk into the brasson the fired ones somenot all the primers feel slightly.and i mean slightly outta the primer pocket. We are pleased, once again, to accept online orders. Has it been drilled & tapped (aftermarket) for a scope? I bought it for a few hundred bucks assuming it had been modified and therefore no collector value. I believe that Numrich has diagrams/schematics for the Model 43, but I sincerely doubt that you will need them. In your pictures of the two bolts.mine is the bottom one you have attached. WINCHESTER MODEL 43 CALIBER 218 BEE. My Model 43 22 Hornet loves the Remington 45-gr HP factory load the best, and shoots 1/2-inch groups @100 yards with it. Thanks so much for the response Ill post pics tomorrow. Im hoping that someone can help me with a few things. I made a truck varmint gun out of it, thinking it had no value. It has a weaver scope. My wife inherited a Model 43, sn30575a, 22 Hornet, Standard. WINCHESTER MODEL 43 WINCHESTER MODEL 88 WINCHESTER MODEL 71 100 HOOD . When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. NEED MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CALL OUR OFFICE, WE ARE LOCATED IN WESTERN NEW YORK STATE. (66*) Im assuming its first year production but sometimes first year production could have started in December. I can tell you when your Model 43 was manufactured if you provide the serial number. IF YOU SELECT BUY NOW AND DO NOT RESPOND TO ATTEMPTED CONTACT FROM CLASSIC FIREARMS WITHIN 24 HOURS, THE ITEM WILL BE RELISTED AND YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE REPORTED TO GUNS INTERNATIONAL FOR FAILURE TO COMPLETE TRANSACTION. Action works perfectly. There was some question about the accuracy of the .218 Bee as compared to the .222,[citation needed] but that was likely due to the difference of inherent accuracy between the bolt-actions rifles commonly chambered for the .222 and the lever-actions commonly chambered for the .218 Bee. The Serial number is 45672A I do not yet have the gun in-hand but have pictures, which I cant post here. That being said, I dont want to restore the rifle if it does some crazy thing to the value! Myarticle discussing the Model 43 is available for viewing here on the WACA website foranyone who is a WACA member in good standing. Winchester 92 94 43 1873 Rear Sight & Elevator- Winchester Model 94- 21168. Winchester continued to catalog them through 1957 to sell remaining stock on hand. Guns Rifles Winchester Rifles Modern Bolt Auto Single Other Bolt Action WINCHESTER MODEL DELUXE CALIBER BEE | 764 | 202 | Lc | 109.3885ms, WINCHESTER MODEL 43 DELUXE CALIBER 218 BEE, WINCHESTER MODEL 43 DELUXE CALIBER 218 BEE. Thank You Bert for your input & Time, I do appreciate it. Additional Information - dubbed "Poor Man's Model 70," round tapered barrel, box type mag. Resultados que coinciden con menos palabras, Mercedes C218 Clase CLS 2014 rojo met. I have a model 43 in 22 Hornet which has been drilled and tapped for scope mounts. UPC. I dont mind emailing them if you have an email address, You can send the pictures to me at [emailprotected]. Guarda esta bsqueda para recibir notificaciones y avisos cuando los artculos estn disponibles. If I switch to Winchester 45-gr SP ammo, my group immediately opens to nearly 2-inches @100 yards. I bought it for a few hundred bucks assuming it had been modified and therefore no collector value. Winchester Model 43 .22 Hornet 4 RD Round Blued Steel Magazine Triple K 632M Hover to zoom Shop with confidence eBay Money Back Guarantee Get the item you ordered or get your money back. The early production Model 43 rifles were made with a straight (90-degree) bolt handle. Winchester continued to catalog them through 1957 to sell remaining stock on hand. A great read here and thought you needed a new data point and to bump this up since the last post was April of 22. Thanks Bert. Front sight is missing the hood as it looks to have been removed to get it out of the view thru the scope. In general, the Model 43 is capable of very fine accuracy with the 22 Hornet cartridge, but they can be picky about the specific ammo to shoot in them for best accuracy. I recently inherited some rifles from my grandfather. There is no major damage to be noted, no scratches, scuffs, gouges or rust. Manufactured from 1948 to 1953, the Model 43 was chambered for the 25-20 Win, 32-20 Win, 218 Bee, and 22 Hornet cartridges. Its serial number is 23XX5A and is untapped with open sights. 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Was this rifle originally drilled at the factory for the scope mounts? But if not I would go with newer optics like a Leupold 39, Im not the boy who first shot this rifle 40+ years ago. Weaver K6 optics are clear. It offers 30 percent more case capacity and a more than 100 feet per second (fps) improvement in velocity, despite lower established operating pressures. You must be a subscriber to see the full article. WINCHESTER MODEL 43 218 BEE RIFLE WITH SCOPE (1951 YEAR MODEL) Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns and accessories. Im going to assume standard as its not checkered..it has been drilled and tapped it came with bases when I bought it. WINCHESTER 43, .218 BEE, 4 RD: ORIGIN - USA. Guns International #: 101695745 Seller's Inventory #: 29225, When emailing or calling sellers direct, please mention that you saw their listing on GunsInternational.com, FEATURES - COMES WITH LEATHER SLING & WEAVER K10 60-B SCOPE, STORE HOURS 10AM - 6 PM MON - SAT EST. Save up to 10% when you buy more. - Winchester Model 43 218 BEE 5 RDS Magazine Mag Mags Made in the USA! Hopefully, everything else about it is unscathed. If you take the barreled action out of the stock, everything you will need to access to clean it will be right in front of you. That is an urban myth that has been spread around for several decades (people use it to try explaining why a rifle that has been D&T after the fact). My bad. Gun has the factory knurled steel butt plate. It was manufactured in 1952. If your rifle has headspace issues, it may not be something that can be readily corrected. As long as you stick with factory loaded ammo, it should not be an issue unless it already has developed excessive head space problems. I have attached pictures of the two bolt types. Lever-rifle tubular magazines requiring blunt, low ballistic coefficient (BC) bullets, and slow (1:16) rifling twist, never really allowed the cartridge to live up to its true potential. The Model 43 is a very simplistic design, and does not require much disassembly to properly clean. The Winchester Model 43 "Special Rifle" version, used for testing here, includes a 24-inch round, proof-steel barrel measuring .56-inch at the muzzle, select walnut stock with checkered pistol grip and forend and steel butt plate. STORE HOURS 10AM - 6 PM MON - SAT EST. OVERALL LENGTH - 42.25. Winchester ~ 43 ~ .218 Bee. [emailprotected] said It came off of a ladys fathers boat. If you read the article that I wrote (in the Spring 2016 Collector magazine), it explains the Model 43 production history in better detail. Id also like to get an idea of the value of the rifle; but Ill hold off on that question until Ive gone through it and can produce some quality photos and an evaluation of its condition. . These rifles were produced until 1957, with about 63,000 sold. Mon-Fri: 10:00am 4:00pmSaturday & Sunday: Closed. Cases are also easily formed from .32-20 WCF brass. Its seen better days and as a boy I recall a Weaver 4x scope thats now missing. Can you tell me if your rifle is a Standard, or a Special? I can already tell you that it will have a swept (bent) bolt, and no bevel on the receiver frame ring. Though I have plenty of varmint rifles hanging around (.204 Ruger Thomson Single Bull, .223 Remington AR Bushmaster, .22-250 Ruger M77 Bull.) So Inherited a nice Model 43 in 218 Bee along with others but this one has peeked my interest more than others, so a few notes after reading this. That is important to me due to my plans to restore it back to like-new, but modified from its original design and condition. My goal is to replace the few missing hardware pieces and eventually do a little plinking. I have longed to own the .22 Hornet.. Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns and accessories. Thanks for responding to my question (I had to at least ask). Winchester Model 43 - .218 Bee $ 1,699.00 For sale is a Winchester Model 43 bolt-action rifle in .218 Bee. Any help would be great. When I return, Ill double check the bevel on the receiver ring and the shape of the bolt. There are several on ebay at the moment though. It is a 218 Bee and a standard rifle. From reading this thread, I see the rifle is equipped with the swept bolt and a plain (no checkering) wood stock (pretty though!). Thanks. The Model 43 is a well-made, 6-pound rifle that includes a three-round detachable box magazine, allowing the use of pointed bullets (though the confines of that magazine limits overall length). 1 single shot in the Bee. Seriously, what is more fun than hunting varmints with classic rifles, chambered in classic cartridges? WEIGHT - 6 LBS. Forum. Nevada Paul said Selling original Winchester type 1A rear sight elevator with, Selling original Winchester pre-64 model 70 steel butt-plate, Selling original Winchester 1873 carbine trap-door butt-plat, WTB: Winchester model 70 Marksman coarse checkered butt pla, Suggestions for replacing or restoring a worn-out 1873 carbi. I think I made out okay for what I paid for it. It was manufactured in September 1953. Does anyone know where I can find one? I have a model 43 in 22 Hornet which has been drilled and tapped for scope mounts. If yes then Id contemplate a refurbished Weaver K4 to be period correct. The barrel is in great condition overall and retains its factory finish. Seller Description. The magazines are. Although not in common use, it is still a very effective cartridge in its class, for small to medium varmints out to about 200 yards (180m). Triple K Winchester Model 43 218 Bee Magazine 5 Shot Max, Winchester Model 43 - Right Hand Extractor w/Spring- 218 Bee, 32WCF, 25-20 - New, Triple K Magazine Winchester Model 43 218 BEE 5RD #693M, WINCHESTER MODEL 43 FIRING PIN PREOWNED GOOD USABLE CONDITION. I would assume that bedding the action and barrel would be worthless in this case, but I might do it for fun and practice? 218 Bee "Extreme" Custom Ammo. I cant wait to go review the prior work and write-ups you have done previously on the Model 43. The cartridge is named for the bore diameter of the barrel in which the cartridge is chambered rather than the usual practice in the United States of having the cartridge's nomenclature reflect in some way the bullet diameter. At that time, Winchester did not drill & tap the receiver for mounting a scope, which means that your grandfather had it altered aftermarket. Looking forward to getting it home and trying it out, Bert I saw your email address and am sending you pics. Produced from 1949 to 1957, with about 63,000 sold. The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Bert, if you follow NW Sportsman Magazine (It appears we live just across the water from one another in Wa.) Approx. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. A serial number in the 600 699 range puts its production in June of 1948. interchangeable in either grade. The receiver and bolt were improved beginning in January 1950 to strengthen the action to help prevent head space issues. Its a great shooter in any case. There are currently no customer product questions on this lot. Based upon reading this forum and date site, appears to have been manufactured in 1950 (what month?) The swept bolts begin to appear at serial number 1100, and fully replace the straight bolt before serial number 8800. Shortly after production began, Winchester changed the bolt design to a swept (bent) bolt handle, but it had nothing to do with the receiver being pre-drilled & tapped for mounting a scope. On the October 1950 and later receivers, the front face has a 90-degree corner. Receiver behind bolt is square cut not angled, has the swept bolt, & serial # is 20078A. Magazines canroutinely be found on eBay, or at most large gun shows. The cartridge was introduced as a commercial cartridge by Winchester in 1937 in their Model 65 lever action rifle, which was also chambered for the .25-20 and .32-20 Winchester cartridges. Second, once Ive gone through it and can be certain of the condition, I need to figure out what I want to do with it. The tendency with smaller varmint rounds like the Bee is to push maximum, ammunition left in a hot sun or truck cab inviting a stuck case or locked bolt. (66*) Im assuming its first year production but sometimes first year production could have started in December. The .218 Bee was the first modern varmint cartridge designed expressly for a lever rifle Winchesters Model 65. WINCHESTER MODEL 43 CALIBER 218 BEE WITH WEAVER SCOPE 4 POWER. Manufactured from 1949 to 1957 with standard Winchester markings, hooded ramp front and elevation adjustable rear sights and receiver tapped for sight/scope mounting. Hornady has become the most reliable source for Bee brass, offered in both loaded ammunition and as a component. I acquired a model 43 serial number 19257A. This hinges on the fact that, again like the Hornet, the Bee is just flat-out fun to shoot, producing negligible recoil and tolerable muzzle report. It is super awesome when someone like you takes the time to educate! All because for once in my life, luck was on my side and I happened to end-up with the ONE every collector is looking for! If it has a smooth uncheckered stock, it is a Standard rifle. Among them is a Winchester Model 43, standard model, swept bolt lever, chambered in .218 BEE, with a Weaver scope mounted on it. and the scope mount is not factory (correct?). 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